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pretzel_daydream_believer
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| Quote: | Between "Grey's Anatomy" and "CSI," the Thursday 9 o'clock hour is already one that's responsible for a lot of TiVo use.
But what if another popular DVR draw, "The Office," joins the party too?
It could happen next fall if NBC makes an aggressive move that would put its hottest comedy -- currently airing at 8:30 p.m. -- in the timeslot that once inhabited "Seinfeld," "Cheers" and "Frasier."
Both tonight and next Thursday, "The Office" will extend well into the 9 o'clock half-hour with "super-sized" episodes, giving Peacock programmers a chance to see how the single-camera workplace comedy fares in tougher waters prior to announcing the net's fall sked May 14.
As it is right now, NBC is competitive in the opening hour of Thursday with "My Name Is Earl" and "The Office" but then drops off sharply at 9 with "30 Rock" and "Scrubs."
One schedule scenario that would strengthen the comedy block as a whole would be for the net to place its best new comedy prospect in the 8:30 slot behind "Earl," and then shift "The Office" to 9. "30 Rock" or a new show could go at 9:30.
It's a roll of the dice, but the timing is right.
In its third season, "The Office" is averaging a 4.1 rating/11 share in adults 18-49 (roughly 5.4 million viewers in this age bracket), putting it on par with Fox's "The Simpsons" and "Family Guy" and, among all comedies, behind only CBS' "Two and a Half Men."
"Earl" and "The Office" aired in the 9 o'clock Thursday hour a year ago at this time, but that was before ABC made its own bold move months later by sending "Grey's Anatomy" there.
This season, the medical drama has become TV's No. 1 scripted series and regularly beats "CSI," but both shows are in the top 10.
The addition of "The Office" to the mix would make it a tough three-way choice for a lot of viewers, but each series is distinct. And we've seen examples in recent years of multiple shows working in the same timeslot (i.e., "Survivor" and "Friends" for a few years earlier this decade).
It would be an especially tough choice for adults 18-34, as the shows each rank among the season's top dozen in this age group: "Grey's" at No. 3, "CSI" at No. 10 and "The Office" at No. 12.
NBC could always shift "The Office" back to 8:30 if it takes too much of a ratings hit at 9, but it's worth the risk.
If it is to reclaim its four-laffer "Must-See" status on Thursday, the first step is having "The Office" clock in at a new time. |
http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117964159.html?categoryId=14&cs=1
Works well for me...since I wouldn't have to catch Survivor online. BUT I am in the process of getting some of my friends to become Office fans and they are completely OBSESSED with Grey's Anatomy. I doubt they'd bother to watch the Office online when they've already become fans yet.
Your thoughts? I wonder if they'd change the Office by BOTH making it into an hour and changing its airing time...
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mollie
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| Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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9 oclock on thursdays would be horrible. it's suych a tough time slot to compete with plus, i'm addicted to greys too!
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I'm not a fan of Grey's or...anything else that's on any other network at 9 but I'm kind of like an old lady. I like my stories...and I like them in the time slot I've been watching them in for year(s). My point is...all this supersizing/hourlong/changing time slot tripe isn't rubbing me the right way.
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I personally think The Office should switch places with Earl. The Office is a much stronger show, and a much better lead in. I guess if they want to take on the 9p.m. time slot it's probably better if they use their best show, but I don't want to see any stupid risks taken that could mean the end of The Office.
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I think NBC and my own workplace are going through similar problems, and both companies are equally annoying me with changes.
Anyway, I'm upset with NBC because they're being butts to Scrubs. |
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yeah, all this talk of switching things up for The Office is bugging me. We all know that the show has a contract for seasons 4 & 5, but who says that NBC can't re-neg on that and cancel them if S4 doesn't go well? I say half-hour show at 9 if necessary, but NO hour-long show. The specialness of super-sizing would be lost and I think that those shows bring people in.
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:04 am Post subject: |
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Putting it on later works for me, because I ought to be done with my night class by then to catch it as soon as it airs, which is something I never get to do anymore. I'm all about not having to record it before I leave.
But..
Stear clear, Big Tuna, head for open waters.
Throwing The Office into that timeslot is a bad idea for ratings and the show. I've already settled into the timeslot they're in now. I hate when shows get moved, especially when they now have to go up against more commonly watched shows.
Hopefully they don't do something dumb like that.
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: |
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I think at this point it's unrealistic that The Office should try to compete head-to-head with shows like Grey's and CSI. All of these shows have established fan bases and to try and sway new viewers from one to another would be pretty difficult. I agree with whoever said that trying to convince Grey's fans to watch the Office is hard enough as it, when they're not in competing timeslots!
I actually think moving the show to 8:00 and putting Earl behind it would work better too. 8:00 was always a really strong timeslot for Friends, until Survivor moved to the same time. But it is a stronger lead-in to Earl, and I don't know. It's always felt like a top of the hour show to me.
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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| Lan Jevinson wrote: | I think at this point it's unrealistic that The Office should try to compete head-to-head with shows like Grey's and CSI. All of these shows have established fan bases and to try and sway new viewers from one to another would be pretty difficult. I agree with whoever said that trying to convince Grey's fans to watch the Office is hard enough as it, when they're not in competing timeslots!
I actually think moving the show to 8:00 and putting Earl behind it would work better too. 8:00 was always a really strong timeslot for Friends, until Survivor moved to the same time. But it is a stronger lead-in to Earl, and I don't know. It's always felt like a top of the hour show to me. |
In that same regard you could say CSI had a fanbase until Grey's came in. Same is true for 24 and Heroes. |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: |
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| Lan Jevinson wrote: | I think at this point it's unrealistic that The Office should try to compete head-to-head with shows like Grey's and CSI. All of these shows have established fan bases and to try and sway new viewers from one to another would be pretty difficult. I agree with whoever said that trying to convince Grey's fans to watch the Office is hard enough as it, when they're not in competing timeslots!
I actually think moving the show to 8:00 and putting Earl behind it would work better too. 8:00 was always a really strong timeslot for Friends, until Survivor moved to the same time. But it is a stronger lead-in to Earl, and I don't know. It's always felt like a top of the hour show to me. |
I agree with some of that. I think that the show competing at the 9PM hour will be hard. Maybe NBC moved it so it can show less PC things? I mean some eps have had some crazy content, or whatever. I think that NBC wants the show to survive (it did just order more eps than ever before) and so they have faith in it, otherwise, why move it? I thik having a good lead it or as the top show would probably give the show more viewers. Just my two cents. |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:44 am Post subject: |
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I am just as obsessed with Greys as this show. However, I dont watch the Office when its on. I DVR it and watch it the next day with my husband. He likes me to wait (hes got to get up at like 3:45 Friday morning so he goes to bed around 8 on Thur)
Soooo having said that...it wouldnt be a huge problem for me. Buuut I'm a moderator on a Greys board. And we have our own Office thread. and theres several people on there that really love the Office, but if it was on when Greys was, hands down theyd watch Greys. So I dont think that time slot is good for the Office. |
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 10:57 am Post subject: |
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They will put it back to 8:30 if it can't fight the competition at 9, right?
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Quessadilla wrote: | | They will put it back to 8:30 if it can't fight the competition at 9, right? |
I would think so, I mean goodness knows people don't skip out on Grey's or CSI just cuz 30 Rock is on. The Office... maybe. |
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| Azjeans wrote: | | Quessadilla wrote: | | They will put it back to 8:30 if it can't fight the competition at 9, right? |
I would think so, I mean goodness knows people don't skip out on Grey's or CSI just cuz 30 Rock is on. The Office... maybe. |
The Office will probably become heavily DVRed in the 9 o'clock position. I wouldn't want 30 Rock to be at 9. NBC has a lot of faith in the Office but i dont think 30 Rock could survive another year if they were in the 9 spot.
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| excitingjae wrote: | | Azjeans wrote: | | Quessadilla wrote: | | They will put it back to 8:30 if it can't fight the competition at 9, right? |
I would think so, I mean goodness knows people don't skip out on Grey's or CSI just cuz 30 Rock is on. The Office... maybe. |
The Office will probably become heavily DVRed in the 9 o'clock position. I wouldn't want 30 Rock to be at 9. NBC has a lot of faith in the Office but i dont think 30 Rock could survive another year if they were in the 9 spot. |
I concur |
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| Azjeans wrote: | | excitingjae wrote: | | Azjeans wrote: | | Quessadilla wrote: | | They will put it back to 8:30 if it can't fight the competition at 9, right? |
I would think so, I mean goodness knows people don't skip out on Grey's or CSI just cuz 30 Rock is on. The Office... maybe. |
The Office will probably become heavily DVRed in the 9 o'clock position. I wouldn't want 30 Rock to be at 9. NBC has a lot of faith in the Office but i dont think 30 Rock could survive another year if they were in the 9 spot. |
I concur |
True...I admit I only ever actually watch The Office when it's actually on like once a year. So it really doesn't matter to me. But DVR ratings count right? Do they count as much?
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| Quessadilla wrote: | | Azjeans wrote: | | excitingjae wrote: | | Azjeans wrote: | | Quessadilla wrote: | | They will put it back to 8:30 if it can't fight the competition at 9, right? |
I would think so, I mean goodness knows people don't skip out on Grey's or CSI just cuz 30 Rock is on. The Office... maybe. |
The Office will probably become heavily DVRed in the 9 o'clock position. I wouldn't want 30 Rock to be at 9. NBC has a lot of faith in the Office but i dont think 30 Rock could survive another year if they were in the 9 spot. |
I concur |
True...I admit I only ever actually watch The Office when it's actually on like once a year. So it really doesn't matter to me. But DVR ratings count right? Do they count as much? |
Not as much, but a positive DVR count means people are watching the show but the network should find a different time slot for it. And Q and I fall in the same boat that we rarely see The Office at it's regularly scheduled night and time (literally the same boat, well not literally a boat, but still) For example Studio 60, House and The Office all got a positive boost thanks to DVR-ing so networks are more inclined to keep the show on the air etc.
One day I envision a future where we'll get to watch a TV show at whatever time we want and can set our own personal schedules, but I'm still dreaming. |
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I don't have any fancy digital cable or TiVo or recorders and such so when i miss an episode i download it from iTunes. I rarely miss an episode though unless theres something i can't pass up that night. I think i've missed like 4 episodes total. people know now that Thursday is off limits for me. heck i drove over to a friends house to catch "product recall" because i knew i wasnt going to be home in time.
but that doesnt matter because im not a Neilsen family member.
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| Posted: Mon May 14, 2007 3:24 pm Post subject: |
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| Azjeans wrote: | For example Studio 60, House and The Office all got a positive boost thanks to DVR-ing so networks are more inclined to keep the show on the air etc.
One day I envision a future where we'll get to watch a TV show at whatever time we want and can set our own personal schedules, but I'm still dreaming. |
I thought I heard that Studio 60 was cancelled though! And yes, I think that day is coming VERY soon...where all TV will be on demand.
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